June 23, 2005

KIDNAP AND DECAPITATION MANUAL FOUND IN HIDEOUT

We have manuals on how to properly handle the Koran and humanely treat prisoners paying respect to their cultural sensitivities, they have manuals on how to properly torture and decapitate hostages.

Baghdad, 23 June (AKI) - US Marines have found manuals on taking hostages and decapitation during a raid on a guerrilla hideout in the Iraqi village of Karabla, near the town of Qaim, close to the Syrian border. The Arab newspaper Al-Sharq al-Awsat reports that in the hideaway the troops also found several hostages who were being held there by Islamic militants. The hiding place was being used as a centre for the interrogation and torture of hostages, and contained electrodes and other instruments of torture.

The manuals found were used as Jihad (Holy War) handbooks. The first was titled: "How to choose the best hostage", the second covered decapitation and was called: "Rules for cutting off the heads of infidels", and the third manual, "principles of the philosophy of the Jihad", was more theoretical.

The three documents, the last of which is 574 pages long, carry the name Abdel Rahman al-Aliya, which the newspaper says is probably a cover name to hide the identity of the real author. The hideout - in the volatile western Anbar province which has been the scene of fierce fighting between insurgents and the US-led forces - is believed to have been used by the group led by the Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. He is credited with introducing the practice of decapitation to the activities of the Jihadist movement.

Who are the barbarians Sen Durbin?

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Oriana Fallaci: Europe is doomed, Doomed, DOOMED!!

Unlike Kent Brockman, Oriana Fallaci will not be the first to welcome her new Muslim overlords. You will recall Ms. Fallaci has been indicted by an Italian court for telling the truth about Islam, which is now illegal in many of the more dhimmifide countries of the world. In the spirit of solidarity with Ms. Falluci let me just say that Muhammed was a rapist and piss be upon him!

She sees the decline of Europe in almost absolutist terms. Let's hope she is wrong. WSJ:

Ms. Fallaci speaks in a passionate growl: "Europe is no longer Europe, it is 'Eurabia,' a colony of Islam, where the Islamic invasion does not proceed only in a physical sense, but also in a mental and cultural sense. Servility to the invaders has poisoned democracy, with obvious consequences for the freedom of thought, and for the concept itself of liberty."....
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See-Dubya: Lee Harris and the Future of Tradition

I mentioned Lee Harris below. I'm a big fan. His long essay on Al Qaeda's Fantasy Ideology and its derivative book, Civilization and Its Enemies, are really surprising and interesting takes on the terror war and its stakes that I've passed along to numerous friends and correspondents.

Harris has a new long, long essay in Policy Review that I bookmarked a while back and just now got around to plowing through. It's worth it. Basically, this is a criticism of three defenses of tradition, and an attempt at surpassing them. In his view, progress is guaranteed by tradition, which sounds like a paradox until you consider the role of tradition is (for him) to set an ethical baseline for civilized behavior.

Much of it is dense and he throws around smart-guy names like Popper, Durkheim and Hayek; at the same time it's got light spots which deal with gigantic incestuous cockroaches and Julia Child's recipe for bouillabaise. It's great stuff if you're a brandy-snifter conservative, interested in the pedigree of ideas; but it's also just a useful, accessible introduction into what smart people are saying about tradition and why they think it matters (though Edmund Burke gets short shrift). If that's not your cup of tea, at least skim on down to the last couple sections, starting at "Death to the Exemplary."

Because here's the strange thing: you're not quite sure where this is all going as you read it, but then all of a sudden you realize you're reading a very smart gay man launching a secular, articulate defense of the traditional definition of marriage.

I'll leave you for a while with this great excerpt:
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If the reflective class, represented by intellectuals in the media and the academic world, continues to undermine the ideological superstructure of the visceral code operative among the “culturally backward,” it may eventually succeed in subverting and even destroying the visceral code that has established the common high ethical baseline of the average American — and it will have done all of this out of the insane belief that abstract maxims concerning justice and tolerance can take the place of a visceral code that is the outcome of the accumulated cultural revolution of our long human past.

The intelligentsia have no idea of the consequences that would ensue if middle America lost its simple faith in God and its equally simple trust in its fellow men. Their plain virtues and homespun beliefs are the bedrock of decency and integrity in our nation and in the world. These are the people who give their sons and daughters to defend the good and to defeat the evil. If in their eyes this clear and simple distinction is blurred through the dissemination of moral relativism and an aesthetic of ethical frivolity, where else will human decency find such willing and able defenders?
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See-Dubya: Hezbollah--Drugs for Bombs (BIGGER, LONGER, UNCUT!)

Sometimes when I discuss my odd--for the blogosphere--opinions about drug legalization with people (I'm against it), I get told, "Dude, you clearly lack a basic grasp of fundamental economics."

For today, I'll save my several retorts to that in favor of an observation. Did you notice that no one ever says, on this issue or any other, "Dude, you clearly lack a basic grasp of fundamental sociology"? Why is that?

Anyway, this is just a prelude to a link to Captain Ed's spot on comments on that Hezbollah cocaine smuggling ring they busted in Ecuador and the US: "Snort Cocaine and Fund More Bombings".

Pretty much, yeah.

UPDATE: Rusty responds. One-two-three-four I declare a blog war! more...

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See Dubya: Fly the Iraqi Skies

Last night I watched an old, kinda crappy John Wayne film called Brannigan about a Tough Chicago Cop who goes to England to extradite a fugitive mob boss. I stopped and froze the DVD in place when they showed the Heathrow terminal signboard with the arrival times of various airlines.

"Iraqi Air" jumped out at me. 1975, and there they were flying into Heathrow. Huh.

And then today, courtesy of the Corner, I see this. Weird.

Well, Godspeed.

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June 22, 2005

See-Dubya: Marx v. Mormons

I'm a big fan of Lee Harris, as I've mentioned before here. This is a bizarre subject for a column but he doesn't disappoint: evaluating the legacy of Brigham Young versus that of Karl Marx.

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Why this is an opportunity I just can't pass up

Why this is an opportunity I just canÂ’t pass up.


Well I see itÂ’s still Wednesday so what the hell. I must say IÂ’m having a good time posting stuff. I got to figure out how to make a link work. I got to play around on the net. Pretty cool stuff. Plus I got to post, just what I wanted on a web site that gets 40,000 hits per week. So you know if IÂ’m willing to oblige your entertainment the least you could do is ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!

I really don’t care if I’m a character or not but don’t think I’m so ignorant as to not know WTF or WTW or WZW(god that one was lame). You can depend on me to post some kind of trash each Sunday and Wednesday for as long as Rusty allows me to. So eat your heart out boys. Because like Rusty always says “Words mean something”. And if I have to play a character to get this platform then let it be so. You don’t have to look much past DICK Durbin to see the power the blogs have. For me to waste that power by not taking this opportunity is just stupid. But don’t think I’m going to fall for those lame comments on my earlier post. It takes pros like Rusty, Greg, and Osama to really get me, the rest of you mostly suck, except you YBP.


When Rusty asked me if I wanted to post a few things well I was a little nervous because I figured well you know, what does a moron like me have any business doing this for? A little suspicious too. So if I get labeled white trash that is both fair and fine by me because it could not be more truthful. But in my email I marveled about how “nobody” from “nowhere” could post a comment and speak over all the things that are supposed to keep me and others like me in our place, well I would like to think that has something to do with it too. So A BIG “LICK ME” TO JIMMY, JIMMY, LICK ME. I’m here as long as Rusty will allow me to post. I’m on the front page and you don’t have to click to see what I have to say. I’ll stay there till knocked down or shouted off.

A lot of you guys should think seriously about what you post. I mean what if Greg turned his enormous talent and energy to exposing our enemy? What if he spent just 10% of this energy on that just for us his fellow Americans? Not saying I want Greg or any of you to change one bit. I like you or I would not be here. Also those who read but donÂ’t post, speak the hell up. IÂ’m just saying what a powerful platform to be given and what an opportunity to speak. Never before in all history that I know of. DonÂ’t freaking waste it because I spent way over half of my life wasting it and IÂ’m not going to do it anymore. People face the death penalty in Iran for this shit. Now if you will excuse me I have to save some ranting for next week.

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Jack Kilby 1923 -2005

(Dallas, Texas) Born in Great Bend, Kansas, in 1923, Jack St. Clair Kilby was an engineer, scientist, and inventor. For many years, he worked for Texas Instruments and, in 1959, he patented an integrated circuit device made with germanium. His legacy is the explosion in Information Technology we now enjoy. Yesterday, Texas Instruments CEO Tom Engibous said,

"In my opinion, there are only a handful of people whose works have truly transformed the world and the way we live in it - Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, the Wright Brothers and Jack Kilby."

"If there was ever a seminal invention that transformed not only our industry but our world, it was Jack's invention of the first integrated circuit."

For his creation, Kilby was deservedly awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2000.

Jack Kilby died Monday at his home in Dallas. He was 81.

Companion post at Interested-Participant.

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See-Dubya: Kofi's chutzpah

Others have posted on this, but I think it's really pretty brassy of Kofi to come in and take credit for the success in Iraq.

What's that they say? Success has a thousand fathers?

Recall that after the horrific UN HQ bombing in August 2003, the one that killed Sergio Vieira de Mello and 21 others? The UN bugged out after that, and left the dirty work to the coalition. They've trickled back in since then, and they've probably done some good here and there, but the notion that because they had observers at the election they are driving the democratization of Iraq is ludicrous.

There's only the faintest mention in this editorial of the violence and security problems that plague Iraq. There is no mention of the daily, dirty, dangerous efforts of Coaliton forces to stabilize the country. He might as well be writing about post-tsunami Aceh.

Hell, Halliburton's for-profit contracting has done ten times the good in Iraq that the UN has.

Don't let the pressure slip. We need us some Bolton up there, kicking the UN in the patootie every time they do something stupid.

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Ha-ha: Leftists Go Apeshit Over Durbin Apology

William Teach, of the Pirate's Cove, invited us to put on our hip-boots and wade on over to dKos's place to see what the Bush=Hitler/loud-music=torture crowd is saying. But it's not the soul of Markos 'everything=torture' Zuniga I'm worried about. It's the normally lucid John Cole:

So Senator Durbin was forced to go to the well of the Senate to offer up a blubbering 'apolocorrection' after being cut off at the knees by Mayor Daley of Chicago. This was his second attempt to apologize for telling the truth...
The truth. Right. And the truth about my brother is that he was a sadistic follower of Pol-Pot who treated the lower bunk in our bedroom like Stalin did the gulags, what with the Hitleresque wedgies and all......

And yes, John, Durbin's remarks 'really are that offensive' for those of us who have a connection to the tens of millions killed in the gulags, were the victims of Nazi extermination plans, suffered the fate of being an enemy of Saddam, or have friends with relatives massacred in Pol Pot's killing fields.

Anyway, as one of a minority of right-of-center bloggers who accepts Durbin's apology at face value let me also add that no such pass will be given to the unapologetic America haters, such as Kos who says:

Torture isn't a partisan issue. And by apologizing, Durbin caved to those who worked their best to turn it into one.
Of course torture isn't a partisan issue, but as far as I can tell nothing that was done at Gitmo even comes close to 'torture'. Not every act of abuse is an act of 'torture', otherwise hundreds of thousands of prison guards in the U.S. would be guilty of said offensive.

I would also suggest reading this interview with a Gitmo interrogator. As Bluto observes, the interview calls into question the accuracy of the information Durbin used as the basis of his accusation. Even so, I believe there is a legitimate discussion to be had on the proper limits of interrogation methods. However, you cannot have such rational discussion with the blame America first crowd which jumps to the worst conclusions at the slightest accusation of impropriety--especially when no consensus has been established on what exactly is an acceptable interrogation method when Americans are still in the line of fire.

I'm not against Congressional oversight of military prisons, as is their Constitutional duty in Section I, only partisan ploys to overhype with disgusting equivication instances of abuse with institutionalized genocidal mass-murder.

Kos finishes his post by seconding Steve Gilliard who says:

But Dick Durbin can go f*ck himself.
Same to you Steve and Markos. Same to you.

UPDATE: Risking the chance that I'll lose readers to a better blogger, here is a taste from a post Ace does in response to Andrew Sullivan. The argument is equally applicable to all the Leftists who are hyping alleged abuse at Gitmo. But seriously, you have to read the whole thing:

But he refuses to address the central question: If you're not going to employ any coercive tactics against terrorists, how the hell do you expect to elicit information from them -- information, mind you, that will often (if not always) save innocent human lives?

Are there any coercive tactics he approves of? If so, it is his duty as someone who fancies himself an intellectual braveheart and straight-shooter to announce what levels of coercion he's comfortable with and would approve of. The tactics he is currently so, well, gob-smacked about -- denying air conditioning, chaining to the floor, playing loud rap music -- seem fairly mild. So it does seem, at least by implication, that Excitable Andy approves of no coercive tactics against terrorists whatsoever during interrogations, apart from raised voices and lots of cursing.

File under, man I wish I had said that......

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Filipino Hostage Released in Iraq

This is VERY good news. Not only for the family of Robert Tarangoy, but because Tarangoy was taken hostage along with Roy Hallums. As you know, I've developed something of a relationship with the Hallums family. Keep Roy in your prayers, there is still hope. FYI--if you are in the Southern California area, there will be a candlelight vigil for Roy tomorrow in Huntington Beach. Details here. CNN:

Robert Tarongoy, a Filipino citizen taken hostage in Iraq almost eight months ago, has been freed, Philippines President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo said Wednesday.

In a phone interview with Philippines' GMA television station, an emotional Tarongoy thanked Arroyo, The Associated Press reported. "She did not neglect me," he said, also thanking diplomats who helped win his freedom.

Asked how he was treated by his captors, Tarongoy said, his voice cracking: "You know how long I was kept there. It was difficult," AP reported.

In a written statement announcing his release, Arroyo said: "Robert is now safe in the hands of the Iraq hostage crisis team led by [Foreign] Undersecretary Rafael Seguis who is making the necessary arrangements to bring him back to the Philippines."....

The AP also reported that Seguis told GMA that no ransom was paid and several Middle Eastern countries, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Jordan -- along with Muslim clerics -- helped secure Tarongoy's release.

Seguis said Tarongoy could be home as early as Thursday, according to the AP.

Tarongoy's wife -- in the Filipino city of Davao -- told AP her husband's release coincided with their third wedding anniversary.

"It's a very wonderful gift for both of us," she said. "I'm very happy."

It sounds good, so far, that no money was paid. However, there is this from Forbes:
The government of the Philippines secured the release of one of its nationals held hostage in Iraq after agreeing to set demands, the previously unknown armed group which claimed to have held him said, as reported b, Al-Jazeera television reported.

The Doha-based channel broadcast a videotape showing the hostage held by two armed men, reading what they claimed to be a statement by the Philippine foreign ministry, saying it has banned its nationals from travelling to Iraq and adopted a new law to punish those who disobeyed the order.

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Porn Star's Hot Lesbian Sex Fantasy With Bush Twins

When you read a story like this, the headline just sort of makes itself up! Tim at Opinion Bug was cruising the blog of the man I claim is the 14th most destructive in America (hey, somebody has to keep an eye on that gay-outing asshole) and found this little mini-interview with porn-star Mary Carey. Before you go on, remember that Marey Carey claims she is a believing Christian:

"Oh my God, his [Bush's] daughters! IÂ’d LOVE to party with his daughters. IÂ’d love to meet them. I totally want to have sex with them.
Yowza!! That's one of those kind of mental images that you know you shouldn't have, but, you know, isn't all that unpleasant either......

UPDATE: From WND:

She made no secret prior to the event of wanting to have sex with Karl Rove, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Pat Buchanan and Alan Colmes – in addition to at least one player from every team in the NBA.
No comment from Glenn Reynolds or Wonkette on Ms. Carey's other fantasy of a top-blogger three-way followed by group hugs and prayers to her Lord and Savior....... more...

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Die space bastards die

Well Rusty emailed this AM. Howie, no posts? Well to tell the truth I'm busy as a beaver here. I have been reading and making an occasional comment as time allows. Thought about doing a post or two last night but a technical glitch forced me to play Galaga for about 2 hours. I think I was able to relieve some of my stress because things "moved" well this A.M. if you get my drift. In case you're wondering 330,000 stage 30ish Pretty good for no play in about 6 months. I could roll it over a few times in college.
Last year I fooled around with it for a while but only got to 940,000.

I do have a couple links for you today let's hope they work.

Dick Estell will read "102 Minutes" by Jim Dwyer and Kevin Flynn next week starting Monday on NPR stations. God now you all know I'm a geek. I've not read the book myself so maybe I can catch at least some of it.

Also beer trail vacations in NY. Sounds fun but let the wife drive.

And Lions save girl from kidnappers and forced wedding.

Good news from Afghanistan. Well that link is dead already.

I'll replace with this fresh one from CNN about hostage release.


Also please comment on the Future of NPR and PBS. I get a lot from watching /listening and can we exclude Bill Moyer just because he's already gone and I feel that issue just covers over the real value PBS and NPR gives to our kids and to us. Yes total space bastard killing geek I am and proud of it. I'm really interested in the thoughts of those of you who are in education. I get WKMS out of Murray State. I worry about the children's programs and educational value being cut. I'm going to do a pledge and I know several conservatives around here who contribute and support WKMS.


DIE SPACE BASTARDS DIE. I'm just getting in the right mood to face them. Also I may have some posts this late this weekend. Hopefully as time goes by I'll get better and will be able to contribute more.

YBP: Wine will be 4 weeks this Saturday. It bubbles about every two minutes and seems to be clearing better with less sugar. Two to three weeks left. Everybody have a good one.

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Interview With A Gitmo Interrogator

Very cool. Right Thinking Girl has an interview with an anonymous source who claims to be an interrogator at Camp X-Ray. Here is a little taste:

RTG: Okay, the report goes on to say that in “most times” the detainees have urinated or defecated on themselves and left for 18-24 hours or more. How accurate is this?

Smith: Patently false. We donÂ’t leave them unattended for that long. If they defecate or urinate, well, we canÂ’t be held responsible for that. If it comes to our attention, we let them take care of that and clean themselves up. I would also like to note that they do get regular bathroom breaks. They are also given some exercise, and their health is constantly monitored.

Hat tip to Jeff at Shape of Days.

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Nationalism = Suicide Bombs (Religion of Peace Update)

New motto for The Jawa Report, thanks to Professor Chaos and Thomas Mann:

Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.

Via the New Editor (thanks for link Basil) we learn that al Qaeda has finally been able to convince a few native Iraqis to blow themselves up for Allah and for 72 Virgins. Evan Kohlmann has a translation of the communique.

Sept. 11th co-sonspirator acquitted in Germany, deported--will either be rearrested and thrown in real gulag as he gets off the plane, or will return to jihadi brothers to kill infidels.

Is the U.S. at fault for suicide bombings? Yes, says one newspaper. Is there any bad thing in the world that can't be blamed on the U.S?

Yes, every detainee at Gitmo has had a hearing. This is why I love Michelle Malkin. And here is a Nazi-Gitmo analogy that actually works. Because of the hypocrisy.....

Did Pol Pot have one of these signs in the killing fields???

Sir George finds a photo of the latest effort by Syria to keep terrorists out of Iraq. Apparently they hired the US Border Patrol to build it.

It's like Tom Clancy is a modern prophet or something: Drug money used to blow up Jews. Columbia may be doing their part to end this, but the PA certainly isn't. I have a novel idea, why don't we legalize drugs and put these guys out of business?

Dhimmis in the Academy: An organization that claims to speak for me defends an accused terrorists right to indoctrinate your children.

Dhimmis eating Vegamite: Australians put Christians on trial for telling the truth about that child molester and mass-murderer Muhammed.

If this is a consular ship, then where is the Ambassador? Al Qaeda not rolling out red carpet for new U.S. Ambassador.

Christopher Hitchens is a Jawa Reader: The Downing Street Memo and the Conspiracy Theories of the Moonbat Left (via QandO)

Leftards are idiots. Nuff said.

An interview with Thomas Lippman of The Middle East Institute on his recent visit to Saudi Arabia.

Boo-hoo: Islamaphobia.

Non-Religion of Peace:

Save our State to rally againts Mexican fascist landmark in Baldwin Park, CA--my old digs.

Brain Dead woman being kept alive to save baby, no comment from NARAL.

The only reference to Jennifer Wilbanks you'll ever see at the Jawa. Click here.

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Durbin Apology Similar to Kerry's Opinion of Iraq War?

I found a similarity between Senator Durbin's apology and Senator Kerry's opinion of Operation Iraqi Freedom (and maybe some media bias to go along with it). Please tell me what you think.

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Can the NEA Nab Terrorists?

Ace says no, but Sobek says yes. Either way, just offending them would be good enough to try Sobek's idea in my book....

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June 21, 2005

Durbin's Apology: I accept (UPDATED)

Jeff Quinton notified me that Dick Durbin has publicly apologozed. Ian from the Political Teen has the video. When I first saw the video, I thought, just like Charles Johnson seems to be thinking, wait, this isn't an apology at all. This is an I'm sorry I got caught and you took me wrong non-apology. However, after reading a more thorough account of his apology, the apology does seem genuine.

Ok, here is some of what he says. AP:

Some may believe that my remarks crossed the line," the Illinois Democrat said. "To them I extend my heartfelt apologies."
This is not really an apolgy.

I'm sorry that you believe my remarks crossed the line.

Then he goes on to what seems to be a non-apology to the soldiers he offended:

They're the best. I never, ever intended any disrespect for them,"
As my wife tells me when I try this kind of apology, "Whether or not you intended to be disrespectful, you were disrespectful."

And if that was all he said, then I would be forced to conclude, as Rob Porter does, that this was no apology at all.

However, at one point he does fess up and realize just how morally depraved his remarks were.

Via Will Collier this from Yahoo News:

During his apology, which Durbin delivered while looking directly into a TV camera broadcasting the proceedings, the senator said: "I made reference to Nazis, to Soviets, and other repressive regimes. Mr. President, I've come to understand that's a very poor choice of words."

He also reached out directly to Holocaust survivors, adding: "I'm sorry if anything that I said caused any offense or pain to those who have such bitter memories of the Holocaust, the greatest moral tragedy of our time. Nothing, nothing should ever be said to demean or diminish that moral tragedy."

Let me disagree with Will Collier and others who I'm sure will say this is insincere. I, for one, cannot judge sincerity. Given that judging sincerity is very difficult at best and more than likely impossible, my personal preference is to assume that a person is sincere. I have no idea, as Alexander McClure suggests, whether or not he apologizes simply to get fellow Democrats off his back.

Further, iff Durbin is sincere or not is not important to me. What was offensive was not whether or not he actually believed his disgusting analogy, but rather that his made the analogy.

Durbin has apologized. I'm with Chris Short and Citizen Smash on this. I accept the apology at face value. Now let us see him try and undo all the damage that has been done.

UPDATE: Funny. No, very funny. And funny again!

Oh, and as long as we're talking Gitmo. Hey, Kos. Read this.

UPDATE II: No wonder I'm a RINO. I guess I'm going to feel the wrath of angry readers on this one. But look, seriously, this seems to be a legitimate apology. Trust me, I've said equally stupid things in the past and I hope that when I try to correct them and apologize people will be somewhat charitable. If Durbin's deeds in the following months indicate otherwise, we will hold his feet to the fire again. Until then, chill.

UPDATE III: I guess I disagree with Captain Ed and Ed Driscoll and think that M.H. King accepts the apology.

UPDATE IV 6/22/04: I knew I would be in the minority on this one, but that doesn't bother me. There is a solid argument against giving Durbin a pass. Further, just because I accept Durbin's apology does not mean that he should not be censured. I think he still should be censured. Whether or not he should resign or be forced out of his role as Minority Whip is inconsequential to me. That's just politics. I'm interested in people doing the right thing, not politics.

As you may recall, I was personally offended and outraged by his remarks. And now, I personally forgive him for offending me.

A lot of great points made below in the comments section and also by checking the fatwas issued below. Michelle Malkin also has a good roundup.

I'm also glad to see I agree with Dean Esmay.

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When The Mind Goes Blank

From SouthCoastToday:

New research indicates parts of the brain that govern fear and anxiety are switched off when a woman is having an orgasm but remain active if she is faking.

In the first study to map brain function during orgasm, scientists from the Netherlands also found that as a woman climaxes, an area of the brain governing emotional control is largely deactivated.

This explains the bumping-into-walls behavior that I've repeatedly seen over the years. I always thought it was just something quirky and unexplainable.

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See-Dubya: Chicago Style--Catch It!

A while back I cross-posted this long post about how the accusations of "torture" at Gitmo would soon rebound on the accusers, since most of America is just flippin' fine with fighting this war "the Chicago Way". And just as importantly, because what was alleged to be torture is no worse than what happens to new pledges in fraternity houses across America.

I had given some anecdotal support for this claim here, but now the lovely, the talented, the Malkin has poll data backing me up.

Gitmo's a loser for the left. "Set the terrorists free!" loses elections for them. Hopefully they won't learn this too quickly.

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